17 Jul Guest: Tim Gaynor + His Brushes With Death & What It Taught Him About Life
My guest on today’s episode is Tim Gaynor, a certified coach, trainer and speaker whose passion is to partner with individuals and businesses that are looking to invest and find traction in their personal and professional lives. Tim has spent over 25 years leading, coaching, developing, and helping individuals identify and remove the self-limiting beliefs that have been holding them back from living the life they have dreamt of and were made to live.
Key topics we cover:
✔️ Tim’s journey to coaching.
✔️ His brushes with death and how it changed him.
✔️ Team communication can often be helped by not making assumptions!
✔️ You don’t have to know the entire path to start the journey.
✔️ So many moments in life boil down to overcoming your fear and trying something new.
You can find Tim online at: www.coachdevelopinspire.com
And on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gaynortim/
Transcription by Otter.ai:
Hello, hello and welcome to today’s episode of the Causey Consulting podcast. I’m your host Sara Causey and I’m also the owner of Causey Consulting, which you can find online anytime at CauseyConsulting LLC.com. I’m excited today for my guest Tim Gaynor. Tim is a certified coach, trainer and speaker whose passion is to partner with individuals and businesses that are looking to invest and find traction in their personal and professional lives. Tim has spent over 25 years leading coaching, developing and helping individuals identify and remove the self limiting beliefs that have been holding them back from living the life they have dreamt of. And we’re made to live. Tim started his business coach Develop, inspire in 2016. He lives in Colorado and loves to hike and camp with his wife, kids and to grant dogs. So Tim, welcome, welcome. I’m glad you’re here today. No, I appreciate that. Thanks for having me. And I’m very excited to spend some time with you and your listeners. Awesome. Tell us about your own entrepreneurial journey. How did you get started? Yeah, you know in so as you said, I started in 2016 started my own coaching and development business. In part of that expanded from kind of my corporate world where I spent over 20 years in, in the corporate, corporate Arena in some sort of leadership or management role throughout that almost 20 moments, those full 25 years. As a leader, and manager, or at least on average, good leaders should be spending a lot of time developing and coaching their staff. So I was able to do that and I really, really enjoyed that and I had a passion for really helping people. We’ll move beyond what they feel they could do. And I was felt like I was pretty successful that in the corporate world, but I kept getting this little, you know, little voice in my head muscle fire in my belly of like, Hey, can you could you do more Tim is there? Can you expand that sphere of influence in a different direction or in another direction, even outside of what you’re doing today in the corporate world. So that got me thinking about multiple different ways to do that. So I looked into, you know, obviously I wanted to, I wanted to get certified in something to kind of put maybe more of a stamp on if I’m trying to promote myself, not just some guy out there saying, Hey, I could do it, trust me. There had to be something to support that. So I looked around to a lot of different places. And then by accident, I ran upon, you know, john Maxwell, who is the guru of leadership, he’s written over 100 different books on multiple different things, and I loved all of his material, read it for many, many years and actually use a lot of His material and his books are ready in my corporate leadership world to help train and teach and coach other people. So when I found out, Hey, you know what you can actually be certified with him and then utilize even more as material to help other people I was in. That’s all it took. And I said, I think that’s the that’s, that’s the thing I was looking for. I think that’s the direction that I was being pushed into. And when I found that, I really jumped into get certified. And then I started my own business again, a little over four years ago. Oh, awesome. Tell us more about what led you to coaching and what types of coaching that you do? Yeah, the coaching part of it is kind of a little interesting. Maybe funny, sir. It’s funny to me. I don’t know maybe I’m the only one think it’s funny. Like when I first got certified into it, I was like, I really love doing the training the development because that’s what I’m going to really focus on. I’m going to work with businesses, large, small, medium, whatever. I’m going to go in and help do some leadership trainings and teamwork, training, some human communication, training, whatever help goal set, that’s what I want to do, because I really love getting In front of groups and really helping kind of facilitate those types of discussions. So I was like, that’s my focus. Even though with john Maxwell, I got certified in and I learned a lot about coaching. I was like, Well, I’m going to spend most of my time on the development side. My first client was, was someone I didn’t know he was someone I knew from my church. And he’d reached out and he said, Hey, I saw your information out there that you started this business. And I thought he was gonna have me come to his business. He was a VP of a financial institution. I’m like, Alright, this could be great if I could come in and do some leadership training. And he’s like, room with the whole conversation halfway through it. I’m like, he’s gonna ask me to coach. And in my head, like, man, I really don’t want to do this. I was hoping to do the development piece of it. And he did ask me to coach and so we did it and the amount of joy that I got out of it, the amount of value that I learned from it, not only him as well and that was his words, and we were done with so much in so more impactful than I ever thought. I think part of the reason why I was holding out on that was, and I think we’re going to talk a little bit done in a few minutes is, I wasn’t sure that I’d be very good at it. I knew I’d be a great trainer, I knew I’d be a great facilitator. I just knew that and that’s what it does. That’s my roadmap. That’s what I’m good at. I didn’t necessarily know think of holding myself back and being that coach, but after that experience, I’m like, Oh, my gosh, I love this. Because I love this to the point of having, being able to get him to see things, the light bulb Come on in his Arena in his world, and being able to coach him, push him into those directions to get success in the items that he was looking to do. So that was very eye opening. So that really got me going. Well, you know what, I think I’m going to look into this more into this a little bit more. And I certainly have over this last area. So the type of coaching I do, because to me, coaching really is the same package, the same bird as you will it’s just in a different settings. So I do live coaching one on one life coaching with individuals that are looking to, again, find some traction in their life. And a lot of that is really as two different types of clients. There are people that are in a certain area of life, and they know where they want to go. They just, they just need some help getting there. They just need help building that bridge to get there. And that’s what I come along and do as a coach, then there are people that are somewhere in life, and they don’t necessarily know where they want to go, but they certainly know they don’t want to stay where the hell they’re at. Now they’re like, this is not it. This is not what I was made for. But I don’t quite know what it is. So my coaching bear has come in let’s let’s, let’s clear up some things here. Let’s make it clarity, let’s find that place and then build a bridge to it. So for my life coaching business, and then the business coaching and it could be just any type of individual in a business could be a business owner, business executive, could be just want to be more successful in the job that they do. And again, and that’s almost the same thing to they’re here in their business and they Want to be somewhere else? Or Okay, we’re stagnant, we’re not moving, what do we need to do to get back on the track of success in the business, and a lot of that is that individual as a leader, here’s some things you were doing, but you’re not doing now, here’s some things that maybe you could do that maybe help that as your business before it. And I also do, I’ve done some team coaching, which is a kind of a concept, you work with a team that maybe is not gelling, as well as you would like them to, and there’s maybe some communication issues, or there’s a lot of assumptions about why Sally did this job. You know, so you have those things, but you’ve recognized it in your work. You’ve seen that too. So you bring the team together, and you just do some team coaching and you just break down those barriers. You give people the opportunity to share kind of what’s on their mind and then the other person’s go, Joe’s gonna go Oh, that’s what you meant. I assumed you meant something else. Then you really tear those down those walls and then you really open up and guide them to saying, Oh, you know, what would help you get what you need versus what you weren’t Getting in the past I’ve done some of that. And then the last one was almost It was kind of kind of a mistake as well. I do premarital coaching. It’s kind of Yeah, so my daughter’s best friend, like three years ago. They came in town and you know, I hadn’t seen them while we were talking. And I went to another room to get something and then her and her boyfriend at the time came in the room and said, Hey, we got something to ask. You’re like, Okay, cool. Yeah. What is it? Like, would you marry us? And I was like, Yeah, sure. I’ll do it. That’s awesome. I love you guys. I’ll do it. And I’m like, wait, what did I just say? You’re like I just said up, marry you. I’m like, I think I have to be a minister or something. I think there’s some things I got to do. So I did go online and then obviously, everybody knows you’re going to become a minister. I was pretty strategic on what, what? What organization I tied my name to because there are some funky ones out there that are pretty broad and what that looks like I just focus it on something. But part of that too, knowing who these Individuals work, I really wanted to if I was going to be a part of this too many momentous moments, something that’s, it’s a lifetime for them. I wanted them to I guess I was gonna put my name behind it and say, by the power invested in me, I wanted to make sure that they certainly were on the right track ahead of time. So I got certified with it’s called save your marriage before it starts is this program lightly and less, Leah, Leslie and Lee, parrot, and they have these books called baby marriage before it’s a it’s an amazing assessment. It’s like 75 questions, but it really breaks down. A lot of things that folks maybe don’t think about before they get married. You know, one of the big questions like why are you getting married? A lot of people just think, hey, well, we’ve been dating five years. I guess that’s the next step. Let’s get married. It’s like No, really, why are you getting married? And that was kind of eye opening because they had the right answers and they were doing for the right reasons. And then even break down even a little bit farther. Like you know, things you don’t think about, you know, who’s going to do the bills, who’s going to Maybe do the trash who’s gonna cook? Who’s gonna load the dishwasher? And those seem like silly questions, I think to people that maybe aren’t in a long term relationship, but that are understand that yeah, that’s probably pretty important to do that. Because you go in with assumptions like, Well, alright, you’re gonna cook and you’re gonna do the dishes, you’re gonna do the lawn. And then ours always joke about it. I didn’t know there was a wrong way to load a dishwasher until I get married. I didn’t know that. There is. Well, I’m well aware of like, you just put them in there. And you put this open and you turn it on, and the dishwasher does the work. And I can’t I mean, the amount of arguments we had when we first got married about loading a dishwasher, we’re like, oh, so stuff like that. That is kind of funny, but it’s really something Hey, let’s talk with our, with our expectations about all of these things, what’s our expectation about savings and in what our activities and you know, just those types of things. So I did get certified that I’ve used it several times and then several, a handful of marriages since then. So that contract Gotta guess my coaching circle and things that I’ve done. And I really enjoy that piece of I enjoy all of it. But that was something unexpected that kind of fell backwards into. But it’s definitely been a blessing for me and something that I’ve learned a lot from and hopefully has been able to provide some value to the folks that I’ve been able to join together and marriage. That is, I would say wicked cool. I mean, you you’ve had a very well rounded and, and neat kind of life, things that have just fallen into place for you. And I do want to ask about some struggles, though. I know that you are a cancer survivor, and you’ve been through open heart surgery twice. How do you feel that your health struggles have impacted you both in life and in business? Yeah, and that’s, and that’s a that’s a fantastic question. Because you know, in life, everybody’s not going straight up in life. Everything is just not a positive train. There are things that are valleys and people struggle through, struggle through and yeah, I do have You know, I was born with a congenital heart condition. Today 1% of all newborns have some sort of congenital heart condition. Mine is 1% of that 1%. So nobody really know. And I didn’t meet anybody with a heart condition, actually, until about three months ago, and I’m, I’m 49. So I’ve, we’ve lived in multiple, multiple different places we moved all the time. Deb is an Air Force, we moved all the time and have not met anybody until again a few months ago that had my condition. So it is very rare indeed. And throughout that, like you said, had to have a couple open heart surgeries. The first one one of those 20 it got to the point where really, it affects your tricuspid valve and as you know, if your valves are not working right then the blood flow in you is not working right and if the blood flow is not working right, and the oxygen in you is not eating so all parts of the body and it is hard to do things. So I was having a I’m walking up my stairs in my house at that point. And they’re like, Okay, I guess it’s time to have surgery. We had it done, and everything was fine. Then the valve put on what’s the last of the 10 to 15 years, you’re 12 things start going downhill wasn’t as bad as the first one. But I could tell I was losing energy and so forth. So we had another one. And that didn’t really go as planned at all. Supposed to be in a hospital six days go home, I ended up which it did, because went home. Two days later, I went back to the hospital and spent another three weeks there. In during that time, there were several nights, several days where doctors truly were, Hey, you know what you want to make sure your family’s here. You want to make sure that anybody that you want to talk to maybe say goodbye to is here, because we have no idea what’s going on, and we’re not sure that you’re going to make it till tomorrow. At that time, I had a four year old the nine year old was my heritage. And that was Clearly the darkest days, the worst time of my entire tire life. And even today, it’s a little bit hard to talk about just how deep of a dark blanket that I had to remain. I didn’t handle it. Well, I did not handle all your stories of people that have these conditions and they’re going into their chemo with a positive attitude, and they’re doing this and I’m and I was angry, I was yelling at everybody. I was yelling at God, I was yelling at doctors, nurses. And I was just angry. I’m like, why? So So I went through that, which wasn’t your question. And then so can then the other part of that is, you know, the kind of the cancer thing. You know, four years ago, I think four years ago, I was like a kidney stones did a CT scan, which happened to I guess, get part of my lower lungs. And they’re like, Oh, yeah, you do have a couple kidney stones in that too big. You’re good to go. But we did see a little nodule on your lung, you might want to have checked Okay, so the pulmonologist and they go through the whole questions of everything. Hey, do you smoke? Nope, never have. I’m like, okay, I took two parts of one cigarette in college. That’s it. I’m pretty sure that didn’t give me cancer buttons. That’s what I did the two plus, like, what do you work in construction? I’m like, No, I never worked in construction. They went through the whole list. I’m like, No, no, no, no, like, Well, okay. So here’s what we can do. We can go in and try to get a, you know, biopsy of it see what it is it could be an infection or it could be cancer. That’s really what it is. He said, so we get the biopsy and it’s infection we’re gonna go back in anyhow, like okay. And he said base and rule it’s where it’s at with a your lower left lobe. He says, if we interpret that, we may not be able to get it out, cut it out. I’m like, okay, but anyway, he says, Well, we can’t cut out the nodule and it is cancer. Then we’re going to pick out your lower left lobe, like, Okay, so my choices for you to try to get to it. Tell me it’s gambling but back And then take out, take it out or take out the lower left lobe. He says yes, or we just take out the lower left lobe if we can’t get to it. So that was kind of a decision, we went into the surgery, I told my wife just I don’t want to do it twice. So if they come back and go, I can’t get to it. I can’t take two. Take a little bit of that or cut it out. This is take out the lower left low, like so. So I woke up and obviously was my first question. I’m like, would they do and, you know, and they took out the lower left lobe. And so at that point, we still really didn’t know what it was. And then they sent it to the lab, you know, back in a week, and he’s actually not so that was cancer. And I at the point, I was laughing. I was laughing based on like, Are you kidding me? I’ve had to open heart surgeries. I’m gonna have another one again. In the last open heart surgery was just the kind of reset just terrible. And you just said I had cancer. I said I just, it didn’t make a lot of the A was to the point of absurdity, I think in my mind because without Then I got to keep you every six months use CT scan because it may come back and they come somewhere else. And then you know, knock on wood. It’s been several years and has not come back at all. Now. So the question was, it was a long way to get to the answer. Your question is, what is that done for me? And what is that done for my business? I’ve always had, this is a great, I guess, respect to my parents, really, with my heart condition. It’s been, you know, I go to doctors and they say, hey, you shouldn’t do this. You shouldn’t do that. You can’t do that. And I’d walk out and my mom is like, you know what you do what you want to do. You know, when you need to stop. Basic. Basically, don’t limit what someone else is saying to you. If you think you can do it. Be smart about it. Be smart. I mean, don’t it’s not like be stupid, run yourself into the ground. So she’s like, you just do what you need to do. Do what you want to do. So I played, I played when I say sports, I played baseball because that’s not a lot of running in it. I’m not a big guy. So I’m not hitting doubles and triples. I’m hitting a single so 90 feet rest. So you know, so wasn’t running a ton, but I played that and then once you get to high school it did get a little more attractive for me. So, you know, I dip bowling and yes, that is a sports and high school type sport teams on it. We actually had an all star team we bowled against colleges while we were in high school. Nice. So that did very well. I bought I bought a couple of Pro Bowls that are coolers now I bought them and some tournaments back in high school. So I did fairly well at that. So I was getting my sports fixed. So I was able to do those things. And so really that mentality of, you know, if you want to do something, just do it. Don’t listen to other people telling you what you can and cannot do Now, I’m not saying like, Hey, you just broke your femur, and the doctor saying you need to rest for three weeks, you’re going to go Screw you. I’m going to go do a marathon tomorrow. I’m not talking stupid stuff. I’m talking stuff where people are trying to limit you in what you should or could do. And to be honest, I really feel you know in your heart. You’re able to do and that’s what you were made for. So that mentality growing up, and then just a little aspect of being dumb, I guess, I’m too dumb to know if I should or should not do that. You know, I just if something came to my mind, at some point in my life, especially after the second heart surgery where I almost died multiple times, I’m like, I am not going to waste another minute of my life. Because I may have tomorrow and that’s it. I may have 40 years, I don’t know. I am going to use every minute of my life for the betterment of other people’s lives. And that was a clear and I’m in this you know, I’m, I have a lot of belief in God and a lot of spirituality. And I really believe that’s what God was saying to me. Hey, Tim, I got you through these things here. I want you to use your remaining time, whatever that looks like. And I didn’t get the timeframe. I didn’t get the timeframe from him, which was that question would you want to know would you not want to know? Either way, I didn’t get it. But he’s like, I want you to use your days and make People help other people live at their highest potential. And by doing that, then I’m living at my highest potential. So it’s a two fold. I’m helping other people live, live the life that they want and they were made to live. And I’m really pushed to do that because I know how precious life is. I was at death’s door and they went and it was open a little bit and it was open. And other people may not have health conditions but to walk across the road trip fall get hurt. They can have a something just pop out of nowhere, and they died. I just I just read something on Twitter yesterday. Two girls were playing outside in a yard in apparently older brick side of the house fell out and killed him. Oh my god. I mean, that’s that’s just no one thinks that no one’s thinking that’s gonna happen. So things can happen in life that we don’t expect. And at some point, even if nothing happens, a lot of people decades down the road goes What have I done is I’ve wasted it. I’ve done nothing of value. I’ve done nothing that I feel I should have done and they live with a life of regret. So I really wanted to help other people remove those barriers, remove those lids, those limiting beliefs, so they truly can live that life that they want. And that’s what I’ve been doing since then. And that’s how my watch the tie from my health conditioned into why I do what to do. And you know, I know there’s some supplements, aggressive, probably not the right word, but I’m very focused on doing that with individuals because there’s two movies that come to mind when I think of that. You know, it’s a wonderful life. Nobody I think everyone in the world No one can fly. It’s one of my favorites, even though it was way before my time. It’s one of my favorites. And the aspect of he had the opportunity in his in the movie. If people don’t know George George blade was a character in the life wasn’t going how he had planned it. He wanted to do some other things. And life didn’t turn out that way and he got so frustrated He said, Man, I wish I just never been born. And so unspin notes to him, he had a guardian angel that popped up and said, Okay, you’ve got your wish. You were never born. He’s like, What are you talking about? You were never born. This is what your world would look like if you’d never been born. And of course, it’s a movie, they want to be dramatic. So they go to the other end of the spectrum, you know, when he was alive, you know, the world is a nice little small town atmosphere in the 50s or 40s, or whatever timeframe it took place in the 40s took place in a small town America and everything was hunky dory. Everybody loved everybody. It was just a small town. You know, when you got when you got the opportunity to see what life would have been like without him there. It’s like the Las Vegas of small town. It’s just it’s just a disaster. Those call girls bars everywhere. Everybody’s arguing and drunk all the time. So they’re making a point they took it to the extreme but but the main issue out of that is I always think you know what, Tim, if you had a guardian angel, and you were given out to see what your life would be like, if you had not been born, would it be any different than it is? Today and that frightens me, that frightens me to think you know what, it might not be any different. Which really drives me to do what can I do each day to make an impact on my world? I think we’re all charged with that we’re all charged with making a positive difference in each of our worlds your world, are you where you live and what you the people you interact with is different than mine. I we’re all charged with making a positive difference in that world. So that’s one way or the other movie is Schindler’s List. Like what? That’s Schindler’s List, that’s a positive movie for you. It is really, at the end of the movie. Again, quick summary. Schindler’s List was a individual that during the World War Two, he would hire Jews to work at his business. He did started out kind of with the wrong intention. He wanted to make money, and he wanted to make money. So we hired these us to do all the work. However, as you got to know them, he obviously changed a little bit of his mindset. It really was doing it to help save them from going to the cops. trash cans so he could hire way more people than he needed. He would fake out the reports that go with business and what product they’re sending out so he could hire more people. So at the end of the movie, the war is over the business, they got those they got, they got a letter that the war is over. And all the Jews signed a document saying because he was going to be considered a prisoner of war, or it could have been all the Jews sign a piece of paper and said, Hey, guys, save this. He’s not he’s not who you think is. And then he’s like, you would think would be he’d be happy. But he looks at his watch. And he goes, You know, I could have sold this watch and bought and brought into more juice, three more juice. I could have done more. He like looks at his car. He says, I didn’t need this. I got this to show off. I got this does look impressive. I could have sold that and brought in 10. More people say 10 more people’s lives. So he was he was going he did a lot. He was saying I could have done more. And again, that’s something I have in my head of going I don’t want to live. I don’t want Some day down the road going, Tim, you could have done more. And so those two movies drive me on top of my life experiences with the health issues, to really push myself to do more. And that obviously that do more, as we said, it’s how can I do more and help other other people in what they’re trying to do? Mm hmm. Amen to that. And those are two movies I would agree with that have impacted me profoundly. So I appreciate you mentioning those. You talked about limiting beliefs, things limitations that people tried to put on you. And I’m curious to know, what are some of the most common issues or limiting beliefs that you see that clients bring to you in your coaching practice? Yeah, that is it. In fact, that’s a fantastic question. And, and I can answer that because there are a lot of common themes. So it’s the self limiting beliefs that a we put on ourselves, or we allow others society to put on ourselves as well because people all around you could say, hey, they see you as this, and this is what you should do. And then you go, Okay, I guess let’s do another show. How much do you say so okay? So we allow in either someone else’s put them on, or we put them on ourselves. And that prevents us from doing again, the thing that we were made to do and you know, deep inside you should and want to do. So some of the things that we see the biggest one is fear, fear of unknown, fear of failure, fear of looking bad. fear of not doing it, right. And so really what that fear is you’re making up a story of what could happen. So you’re not doing something you’re not moving forward based on a story you’re making up. Because what happens is you get an idea. You get an idea in your head, you’re like, yeah, yeah, that’s a great idea. Oh, man, I can do that. Immediately after that your upper voice inside you it is the dark voice inside you that says really, are you kidding me? You would fail at that you have zero experience in that Why do you think you could do that? So that fear of what may occur usually is false. Instead of looking at it as like, Okay, I’m going to move forward. And I’m going to learn when things aren’t going the way I want to. I started on sidewards sama, stop. Cool, cool. All right, what’s what’s been going well? What are the things that are been positive? I’m gonna keep doing that. And what are the things that I need to change to get back on track, instead of holding yourself up doing it at all? And a lot of times, it’s the fear of the first step to, you know, in in the Indiana Jones, one of the Indiana Jones movies, I think it was with Sean Connery, that one where they’re trying to get the goblet, the job that Jesus used at the Last Supper, so they had this they went to this canyon, and they were trying to go from one side to the other side, and it was kind of a hidden bridge. So he couldn’t find the bridge. He was like, Well, how do I get over there? And a lot of times we look at their first step to anything that we’re doing in that manner. We’re like that first step is huge. It’s there’s no way I could move forward. with whatever this I’m trying to do, it’s huge. And then in the movie, Downton Sam threw it on the kind of invisible bridge. And they go, that’s what it is. And he was able to walk across. That’s how most people are once they actually get the courage to take that first step and move forward. They’re gonna go, Wow, I made all this other stuff. It was not nearly as bad as when I made it out to me. It’s just a step. It’s just a step forward, even if you don’t know it. Step two is you took the first step. You know, and that’s, that’s one of the biggest things is fear. The other one is confidence, lack of lack of confidence, confidence in their ability, and a lot of times that goes by Hey, you know, I don’t have the right education. I didn’t get a triple master’s degree in this or I didn’t even finish college. So lack of competence was no I could do this. I don’t have the right income level to do this. I didn’t come from the right background. I don’t live in the right area of town. I don’t have the right friends. I don’t have the right connections. So that can the lack of confidence is built on a lot of things. from our past that someone has told them, or they read somewhere or they saw somewhere well that you have to have that to be able to do this. Which is not true. That’s not true at all. You don’t have to have some of these things to do these other things. It can help you. But there are many people who don’t have the right income level don’t have the right education. I have the right friend networks to do these other things and they do them because they just do them. They’re not afraid of that first step and they move forward. The other one is doubt. They doubt their abilities. You know, I years ago, I had this I really had this really strong idea to start a nonsense nonprofit. And in really the idea was, I was cleaning out when my kids were young, clean out our coat closets. At that time we were limited we’re living in the Midwest and the Midwest gets very very, very cold. Yes, it sure is. It’s terrible that we’re you know, the kids got a year older we’re getting ready to coats and stuff from the year before because they don’t fit because the group and we’re going to do we normally do let’s go give it to Goodwill, which is There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s fine. Then it came to my mind if you want us to find a family that could use these, let’s give them to them. And typically, we have ideas like this all the time, thousands probably idea and we just don’t we let them go. We don’t do anything. I grabbed onto that one and said, Yeah, I could find the family to do that. That’s that’s not a big deal. And then immediately after the idea came in, it was you know what, there are hundreds of other people in this city. We’re living in Des Moines Metro and about 400 500,000 people, so not ginormous, but a good sized city. And they’re, like, hundreds of people are doing the same thing you’re doing right now, Jim, what would happen? What kind of impact positive impact can you make on people in this community? If you got together all those items, and then gave them to multiple people? Like, well, that’s a great idea. I could do that. Again, it goes back to the dumb level. Yeah, I can do that. Thank you. So I’m like okay, you know, here’s what I gotta do is click some things and and it really, you know, or do I go do that I went to an elementary school and said, Hey, would you want to do because in elementary school, you The years that you grow the most from one grade to the next grade is the years that you grow the most. And so typically, most of those people have stuff from the year before. So I went to it, the school, my son’s school at the time. He’s in fourth or fifth grade, and it was teacher like, Hey, you guys want to have the kids run this drive? And click these winter outerwear items. And then I will take them to some agencies. And they said yes, then so then I was stuck. I was like, oh, okay, I guess I’m gonna do this. So we collected a few items. And I went to the school for a couple reasons. One I want I want youth and I want the young people to understand that they can be part of a big, big charity organization and make an impact in their community to also want them to be aware that hey, just because you have an extra coats, you know, the school there’s a school that’s five miles down the road that have a lot of kids that come in here that don’t have runner clothes, we’re going to help them out. So really get them in charge of so they did a lot of the leadership and they did a lot of the marketing the advertising. They truly ran, I gave them ownership of it. I really took the product and divided that out among agencies as well. well as other schools within the Des Moines Metro, we started with one school, we ended with 27 schools around the Moines Metro district collecting schools, or collecting clothes and went out to wearers and we ended up giving those to over 40 different agencies and schools. And I say that because of the fact of Not, not because I’m trying to brag on that. I say that because A, I had no idea what I was doing. I just I, you know, my wife says, How are you going to distribute this? You need to be, you know, considered a nonprofit. What are you going to do with the funds? How are you going to sort these things out once once it gets bigger? And it my answer? I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. But that didn’t prevent me from the first step. Well, the first step, I know what I’m gonna do. And then once that will play out, we’ll get the second step done. And so we worked all those things out, you know, we went from 40 things in our garage with them to putting them in gymnasiums, and sorting them into multiple gymnasiums, because we would get, you know, 10s of thousands of items every year. We sorted this out. So the point of that is I didn’t know what I was doing, but I didn’t will allow the other voice in my head that kept saying, What about this? What about this? What about this? What about this, I went with the fact that this is a positive thing. And I’m just going to do one step at a time and move forward. And that is, I didn’t doubt that it would work out. I didn’t doubt my ability, maybe I should have. But I was able to just start putting one foot in front of the other and get it done. And the last thing that I see is kind of common for the self limiting beliefs is just something so they’re not worthy. They just don’t feel like they’re worthy for the success, or the avenue that they’re trying to go down. They have a different view of themselves, their self worth or self value is low. So why would they think they should be able to start their own business? Why would they think they should be able to go back to school, you know, and finish their college degree? Why would they think they should be able to start a travel company? Why do you they think they should be able to start writing a blog. So they have these I’m not worthy enough for that, too. cuz of things so that that’s another part of me. I always say, well, Who told you that? Who told you that? Where did you get that from. And a lot of these are your people that are living, they’re not living in truth. They’re not living in facts. They’re living in made up stuff that they read, someone told them and they buy into. So if we get rid of a lot of that thing that we’re holding on to, and just focus on what we know is true, what we desire, then we can actually remove those lids, the self limiting beliefs and move forward. And again, have that successful life and against successes, whatever, whatever that person defined it as success for you is different. To me, success for me is different than someone else, whatever that successful is like in their life, and that’s what they want to live. removing those self limiting beliefs is so freeing to be able to get someone to move forward. And that’s what I spend a lot of time in coaching. Again, whether it’s on the business side, whether it’s on the individual side, and even in a lot of the trainings that I do the development trainings, we spend a lot of time on self worth self value. Because it’s like if you have a low self worth self value, you’re not going to be successful in almost every part of your life. And people are going to see that on you. If you see yourself, so self low self worth self esteem, other people are going to see you that way. Because you’re going to behave that way, you’re going to talk that way. And they’re going to see that as well. So that’s so important in all of our interactions and everything we do. So that those are that was a great question. Glad you asked that. So those are some of the common themes that I have seen in my work as a coach and a trainer. Mm hmm. Who would you say is your ideal client in particular, if someone’s listening today, and what you’re saying is hitting their ear the right way, and they’re curious, maybe as to who you typically work with, tell us about your ideal client. Yeah, I love that question. I go to a lot of networking. And the question always comes up, you know, what do you do and who’s your ideal client? I my answer is someone who’s breathing it so I feel expanded I’m at a little bit obviously, to be part of my perspective, humans are humans. We’re all we all want to be successful things. We all have things that are in our way that preventing us from doing it. We all have dreams and goals. And like I said, we really all have that those are the two things I’m here and I want to be here I need I need help getting there. I’m here I don’t necessarily know where I want to go but I know it’s not here. So it really is any there’s no one industry I work with multiple multiple industries there’s no one type of person it really is if there’s a individual that is looking to find traction and move forward in their life and or their business. That’s an ideal client for me. Nice if someone is listening and they think I need some Tim in my life this podcast has not been enough for me. I want to find him. where’s the best place for that person to go online? Yeah. Oh, keep it simple. I’ll do to my website is coach develop inspired Calm, Coach develop inspired calm at the very bottom is my email address, you just click on it and it pops open an email and you can just send me a message or you can send me a message directly at Tim at coach develop, inspire calm or go to LinkedIn and send me a message I’m on LinkedIn as well. So I’ll get and go to my website coach develop, inspire calm at the very bottom, there’s a link to my email address, send it to me, or just an email directly to Tim at coach, develop, inspire calm or find me on LinkedIn, Tim gainer and send me a message and I will definitely find some time and we’ll get together. Awesome. Well, Tim, I really appreciate you taking the time out of your schedule to be my guest today that the time has flown by and I thank you for making the space for us to do this. Now I’m honored I’m honored to be on your podcast and kind of talking to you and you and your your guests that listen here. So it’s it’s definitely a humbling honor and I appreciate you providing that opportunity for me. Thank you Tim. Once again, our guest today was Tim Gaynor, who is a certified coach, trainer and speaker. If you’d like to find him online, go to coach develop inspire.com I hope you enjoyed this episode. If you found it useful, please share it. 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